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Bina Harbour project makes progress: Giro

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By Loretta B Manele

The Bina Harbour Tuna Onshore Processing Plant Project has made some progress throughout 2024.

Nestor Giro, minister for the Ministry of Fisheries and Marine Resources (MFMR) spoke on the above when he contributed to the debate of the 2025 Appropriation Bill 2024 on Monday this week.

Addressing parliament, he said the project remains as their highest priority this year and highlighted a number of key progresses made under the project.

These progresses as stated include; indicating business case and presenting a due diligence report to cabinet in June 2024 and the convening of Bina Harbour development partners round table in October 2004.

Giro said the business case and due diligence report was presented to cabinet in June this year with an estimated SIG capex of USD 202 million and private capex of USD 32.5 million.

“Cabinet endorsed the business case and mandated the ministry of planning and ministry of fisheries to do further consultations with all stakeholders to review the cost.”

Other progresses are; the Ministry for National Planning, Aid and Coordination is now exploring financial options with development partners, fisheries ministry is now concluding non-disclosure agreements with identified potential tuna plant investors, MFMR together with ministries of planning and finance have requested SIPA (SI Ports Authority) to review present cost estimates and explore wider SIPA participation in the port development and lastly, strategic environmental and social assessment are underway building on IFC baseline studies.

Giro stressed that going forward in 2025, they plan to continue with technical investigations and planning like water and waste water design delivery plan, harbour access and water supply, community engagement, power supply scoping and telecommunications scoping.

He calls on all members of parliament to work together for the Bina Harbour Tuna Onshore Processing Plant Project.

“I call on all of us to work together to bring Bina into fruition as this development will not only accelerate our economic growth but also improve our national position towards graduation from the LDC (Least Developed Country) status and address instability caused by lack of employment and livelihood opportunities in Malaita and the rest of the country.”

Giro noted that the project is to give effective economic transformation into the policies the Government for National Unity and Transformation (GNUT) is pursuing.

Lilo concerned over rising national debt, fiscal health

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BY NED GAGAHE

During the Second Reading Debate of the 2025 budget on Tuesday, MP for Central Honiara, Gordon Darcy Lilo raised concerns over the country’s escalating national debt, particularly the substantial increase in debt servicing outlined in the 2025 budget.

Lilo warned that national debt servicing has nearly doubled compared to previous years, pointing to a growing financial strain that could jeopardize the country’s long-term economic stability.

The MP for Central Honiara highlighted that the rising debt burden will likely contribute to a widening gap in the national budget, primarily driven by debt financing.

Lilo said the country continues to struggle with the fiscal impact of debt repayments, which now consume a larger portion of government revenue.

Lilo expressed worry that without careful management, the debt-driven budget deficits could undermine the government’s ability to fund essential services such as health, education, and infrastructure.

“The increasing reliance on debt financing is a significant concern. If we continue down this path, it will not only strain our budget but could also lead to economic decline,” Lilo said.

“Our budget is being driven by borrowed funds, which limits our capacity to invest in other critical areas that would help our economy grow.”

Lilo also questioned the government’s ability to manage this mounting fiscal pressure, particularly in light of the uncertainties surrounding future financing.

He pointed out that negotiations for loans from international institutions like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) could be lengthy and challenging, further delaying any relief from the financial gap.

Lilo urged the government to prioritize transparency and provide clear details on the sources of financing, including where the country would obtain the funds needed to cover its growing deficit.

He also recommended that the government closely monitor its discretionary spending, emphasizing the need to focus on maintaining essential services while managing debt-related expenses.

We need to manage our people’s expectation: Kenilorea

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Peter Kenilorea Jnr.

BY JOHN HOUANIHAU

The leader of the independent group and Member of Parliament for East Are’are, Peter Kenilorea Jnr, has urged government members to use appropriate language when communicating with public.

During the parliamentary debate on the 2025 Appropriation Bill 2024 this week, Kenilorea expressed his concerns regarding the messaging strategies of MPs and their implications for public understanding.

He said that it is often the case that MPs overstate their roles as government representatives through their choice of words.

“We will increase, so, so, so. Terms like ‘increasing’ are misleading. Regarding fisheries, the notion of increasing catches is not our responsibility, Mr. Speaker. That task lies with the private sector, specifically those who possess the expertise in fishing,” said the MP.

“We will be cultivating cassava. It is not our direct responsibility; rather, it will be the community that undertakes this task. It is crucial that our messaging reflects our role in supporting and facilitating the creation of a framework that allows for growth and development,” he said.

He emphasised the necessity for members of Parliament, as representatives of the government, to avoid overstating their capabilities regarding their statements and proposed actions.

“I frequently encounter this type of rhetoric. Even prior to the Public Accounts Committee meeting, we see enthusiastic ministries proclaiming their intentions, suggesting that they will achieve this or that. Such declarations create significant expectations among the public. If we are not cautious, we risk setting ourselves up for failure and disappointment due to these heightened expectations,” Kenilorea said.

“I believe it is essential for us to communicate accurately regarding our roles as policymakers and the objectives we aim to accomplish,” he added.

He said that, as a small nation, much depends on the effectiveness of government delivery, and that the language used must be refined.

“It is essential for the public to grasp the true purpose of government. Our role is not to impose increases; rather, we aim to facilitate, support, and create an environment conducive to development,” he said.

Lilo urges MEHRD to prioritise internal audits

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By Indy Maealasia

CHAIR of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) Gordon Darcy Lilo has issued a strong reminder to the Ministry of Education and Human Resource Development (MEHRD) of the importance of internal audits to effectively asses the ministry’s performance.

Lilo yesterday in parliament stressed that “it is important because it will be the basis that shows whether your ministry is improving”.

As the Member of Parliament for Central Honiara, Lilo told MEHRD Minister Tozen Leokana that internal audits provide the ministry with a “clear picture” and a powerful tool that must be utilised.

The PAC Chair further called on Parliament to support the ministry in carrying out this vital activity, noting, “Although it is a small allocation in the budget, we must support it.”

In response, Mr Leokana affirmed that internal audits are a crucial yearly activity carried out by his ministry.

He stressed that this yearly audit is conducted on areas such as school grants and teacher performance among others.

Man gets minimum of 15 years before eligible for parole

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BY ROMINAH FAKA

A man found guilty of murder has been given the minimum of 15 years imprisonment before he can be eligible for parole.

The sentence was delivered to Jonathan Felega on November 29.

Felega was charged with one count of murder. He denied the charge and a trial was conducted before Judge John A Keniapisia from August 28-29.

Prosecution called two witnesses – Felega’s nephew and Dr Roy Maraka.

After crown completed their evidence, Felega opted to remain silent without calling any witness.

After trial court found Felega guilty and sentenced him to life imprisonment.

Counsels then filed submissions on the minimum term for parole.

Court heard that on August 11, 2023 Felega and his nephew went to Sagelua village to buy betel nut.

When they reached Sagelua village the accused drank some beers with other boys.

After that Felega told his nephew for them to go back to their village, Minisi.

On their way to Minisi village, they encountered the deceased.

The accused confronted the deceased, saying, “iu na killm mi ba? [weren’t you the one who had assaulted me the other time?].”

He got hold of a stick and struck the deceased on the back of the neck and on his right cheek which caused the deceased to fall to the ground.

Felega lifted the deceased and carried him to the edge of the cliff and threw the body down the cliff.

After that, they both went down the cliff to where the deceased lay.

The juvenile told the court that he saw blood come out of the deceased’s nose and his neck was twisted and broken.

Felega then carried the deceased and laid him near the base of a tree.

After that they went to the deceased’s brother’s house and Felega told them about the deceased having fallen off a cliff.

Director of Public Prosecution Andrew Kelesi acted for the crown and Ben Alasia acted for Felega.

DODO HEAT UP

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Opposition, Independent grill government in parliament over mysterious sale of prime crown land for agriculture

BY NED GAGAHE

Tensions flared in Parliament yesterday as Opposition and Independent group grilled government over the controversial sale of the Dodo Creek land.

Minister for Lands Housing and Survey Polycarp Paea was pressed to disclose details of the sale sparking heated exchanges among MPs in particular between Opposition Leader Matthew Wale and Deputy Prime Minister Bradley Billy Smoky Rodo Tovosia.

Mr Paea later revealed that the 15.8-hectare plot, located near Tenaru, Honiara, was sold in 2021 for $3million to Solomon Agriculture and Livestock Development Limited.

Paea did not divulge details on the owner of the company.

The back-and-forth exchanges arose after PAC Chairman Gordon Darcy Lilo, MP for Central Honiara, called for government to clarify the critical details surrounding the land sale.

“The whole country needs to know how much the land was sold for and who it was sold to. We need this information to close the gap on the budget,” Lilo said.

During the session, Opposition Leader Wale remarked, “You can ask the Deputy Prime Minister about the price of the land there because he has purchased around 14 to 20 hectares of land in the area.

“He (Tovosia) has a lot of money from mining. But for us, only $3million for 16 or 14 hectares is a gross undervaluation. They are robbing us. Why is it so undervalued? Only three million?” Wale asked.

In response, Deputy Prime Minister Tovosia accused Wale of constantly targeting him, and refuted Wale’s comments about him benefiting from mining operations.

The heated exchange was eventually interrupted by Speaker of Parliament John Patteson Oti and Prime Minister Jeremiah Manele, who stepped in to calm the situation.

Prior to the incident, Minister of Finance and Treasury Manasseh Sogavare assured the House that the government would gather and provide the information at a later date.

“Well, Chairman, I have given the commitment to gather that information and provide it to the House later.

Prime Minister Jeremiah Manele also uttered similar sentiments.

“As the Finance Minister said, we’ll get the relevant information on the important questions raised. Of course, through the Ministries of Lands and Agriculture, we will inform the House and the nation,” PM Manele said.

Wale expressed his concern over the sale of the Dodo Creek Land, saying he had only recently become aware of the transaction.

He questioned why the land had been sold, asking whether it was no longer needed, which he suggested might explain the decision.

Wale further raised concerns about the involvement of the Lands Board, questioning whether they were operating without the approval of the Cabinet or if the decision had been solely theirs.

He demanded clarification on the policy rationale behind selling such a critical asset, particularly given its importance for the country’s research.

The Member of Parliament for West Are’are John Maneniaru also requested that the Minister clarify the policy rationale behind the decision to sell and then buy the land, emphasising its importance as a critical asset.

In response, the MAL Minister, Franklyn Derek Wasi, said that he had only just assumed office in May and shared that he too was questioning why the crown land had been sold.

He suggested that former MPs and individuals from the Lands and Titles office might have more insight into the matter.

Minister of Lands Polycarp Paea than confirmed that the land was sold to the Solomon Agriculture and Livestock Development Limited after going through a tender process.

However, when pressed further by Lilo on the ownership of the company, Paea could not immediately provide details, promising to follow up with the necessary information.

“I will find out and let you know,” he said.

Lilo and Wale, along with other opposition members, argued that the sale of such a critical asset, especially one with potential for agricultural research, was a poor decision for the nation.

“We should have kept it,” Lilo said.

“According to the first director of the site, this land is ideal for crop research. We need to hold people accountable for this.” Lilo said.

Wale stated that only three million for 16 or 14 hectares is a gross “undervaluation”.

“They are robbing us. Why is it so undervalued? Only three million?” Wale said.

Decentralising dev’t to provinces is key

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By Loretta B Manele

Decentralizing development to the provinces is key and government wants to ensure that at least two or three projects are in each province.

Rexon Ramofafia, minister for National Planning and Development Coordination expressed this whilst contributing to the debate of the 2025 Appropriation Bill 2024 in parliament on Monday this week.

He voiced that the government is encouraging this and is trying to make sure that almost every province will benefit from the budget.

“So, you will know that projects like upgrading of airports, health and education are happening in our provinces.”

Ramofafia said a number of projects are now focused on improving infrastructure in Malaita province.

In this regard, he said the minister for MID (Ministry of Infrastructure Development) had recently signed an implementation of the Auki Road Tar-Sealing Project which is in Auki Langalanga constituency.

“Other projects also taking place in Malaita is the rehabilitation of Kilu’ufi hospital and the other project is the upgrading of South Road, East Road.

“I think the upgrading and tar-sealing roads in Malaita is important and it is something that we thank the GNUT government for prioritizing including the Bina Harbour Tuna Processing Project.”

Ramofafia said his role in the Bina Harbour project now is to try to find financing for the project, including the minister of finance, because assurance from the ministry responsible and project office is that the project is now ready.

“I think the key role before the government now is to secure the funding costing around US$202 million so this is not a small project.”

Wale calls for anti-poverty strategy amid growing struggles

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Leader of Opposition, Matthew Wale

BY NED GAGAHE

Opposition Leader Matthew Wale has called on government to implement a cohesive, long-term strategy to eradicate poverty in the Solomon Islands,

He criticised the 2025 Appropriation Bill for its lack of meaningful solutions to address the nation’s deepening poverty crisis.

In his speech during the second reading of the 2025 budget yesterday, Wale said poverty continues to be a persistent and systemic issue in the country, with many Solomon Islanders facing daily struggles to meet their basic needs.

He argued that the government’s policies thus far have offered insufficient relief, and merely stating an intention to alleviate poverty is inadequate in the face of the urgent need for transformative change.

“The government must articulate and implement a clearly defined anti-poverty strategy that goes beyond rhetoric.

“We need a policy grounded in rigorous analysis of the root causes of poverty, one that can deliver real, transformative outcomes.”

Wale pointed out that poverty is not just an urban issue but is felt deeply in rural areas, where many communities struggle with a lack of access to basic services, education and employment opportunities.

He stressed that unless government takes bold action and reforms existing systems, poverty will continue to trap future generations in a cycle of hardship.

Citing past income surveys, Wale highlighted the growing depth and breadth of poverty across the country, with the gap between the rich and the poor continuing to widen.

He called on the government to acknowledge its role in addressing this issue.

“If the government does nothing to address poverty inside households, then it is failing the very people it is meant to serve.”

He also underlined government’s failure to adequately invest in education, healthcare, and social services has left many families without the means to escape poverty.

He argued that a lack of strategic planning and insufficient budget allocations have resulted in continued deprivation for the most vulnerable communities in the country.

“We can eradicate, totally eradicate poverty from within our population. Sir, to achieve meaningful change, government must articulate and implement a cohesive, clearly defined anti-poverty strategy, one that is grounded in rigorous analysis of the root causes and one that is capable of delivering transformative outcomes, where the transformative government is, was formed for. So, it is a very important thing.”

Man on false info charge without lawyer

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BY ROMINAH FAKA

A man accused of causing fear by spreading false information earlier this year during the peak of alleged attempted abductions is still without a lawyer.

Junior Harry Gereniu is charged with one count of spreading false information likely to cause fear and panic in the community contrary to section 63 of the Penal Code.

Yesterday the matter was mentioned before Principal Magistrate Dalcy Belapitu Oligari where court asked Gereniu if he had a lawyer to represent him.

The defendant told court that he had gone to the Public Solicitors Office (PSO) on Thursday last week and talked with one lawyer who said he would call Gereniu, but has not.

Court therefore moved the matter to December 16 to give time for the defendant to seek a legal representative.

It was alleged on October 19 at 9.15pm, a viral facebook post on Facebook alleged that a White Toyota Rav 4 without a plate number attempted to abduct the defendant using a hook to steal a basket containing a passport and visa.

The RSIPF began investigating the alleged kidnapping on October 25 after public panic and temporary school closures.

The accused later admitted to fabricating the story based on exaggerated remorse.

Able Maelanga of office of Police Prosecution Department acts for the crown.

Misdiagnosis – a real and serious problem at the NRH Emergency

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BY IRWIN ANGIKI

Misdiagnosis which is costing lives and causing much suffering is a real problem at the Emergency unit of the national referral hospital (NRH), an Island Sun investigation has shown.

The NRH has an Accidents and Emergency (AE) unit along with a general outpatient service which receives emergency cases and referrals, and give general medical attention.

But, just as drugs and accessories are a usual rogue for the hospital, making wrong diagnoses is apparently becoming all too common for comfort at the Emergency.

Reports are increasing of near-death experiences, prolonged suffering as doctors at the emergency unit struggle to diagnose what ills a patient, and death after being left too long at the unit awaiting right diagnosis and treatment, or after being sent home under a wrong diagnosis.

Island Sun’s two-month investigation has uncovered a cocktail behind this sub-standard service at the Emergency unit – ranging from hurdlesome internal protocols, poor communication system, internal competition, some incompetent ‘cowboy’ doctors and politics.

This has spited the hard work put in by few dedicated doctors who have given a lot towards improving the Emergency department over the years.

NRH authorities told Island Sun it was looking into allegations of misdiagnoses. Four NRH doctors spoke to Island Sun under condition of anonymity, and two former NRH doctors now running their own private practices gave insight, also under condition of anonymity.

Day at the Emergency

Wednesday October 9, Honiara businessman Craig Day was rushed to the NRH Emergency with severe abdominal pain at 4am. He waited 30 minutes before being given attention.

A blood test was taken. Results came back 24 hours later – only to be found that it had been the wrong blood test.

Ultrasound scan results said his appendix was alright, according to the Emergency doctors. Hindsight views from doctors say Mr Day should have undergone a CT scan.

By Thursday the pain had worsened – but Emergency doctors nevertheless began preparing papers to discharge Day.

Upon Day’s protest, doctors said he would get a surgical review at 10am the next day.

However, there was no surgical review by lunchtime Friday – and Day decided he was not going to wait to die.

He arranged for a med-evac to Brisbane, Australia, where Emergency doctors immediately diagnosed his appendicitis and removed his engorged appendix.

Day had a gangrenous ruptured appendix. He had had a brush with death.

Day’s experience not unique

One prominent member of parliament shared on social media his experience in 2018 when his child suffered for a week from appendicitis before x-ray results detected it since it had already calcified.

Ten other people shared with Island Sun similar experiences at the NRH Emergency under condition of anonymity.

Their stories outline three types of experiences at the NRH Emergency – premature discharge with doctors unable to diagnose, suffering while doctors apply trial-and-error to get at the right diagnosis, and death either at the hospital or after being sent home under wrong diagnosis.

A 60-year-old mother said her eldest daughter passed away in 2021 after being discharged prematurely from the Emergency ward when doctors said they could not find anything wrong with her.

“This was despite my daughter having a swollen belly, rash on her body and severe abdominal pain on her right side,” she said.

“Two days after being admitted at the emergency outpatient ward we were told to leave by the doctors saying they could not find anything wrong with her and gave us Panadol and antibiotics, telling us if it persisted after four days to return.

“We were discharged and two days later my daughter died,” the mother sobbed.

A 54-year-old mother said her son died while admitted at the Emergency last year after spending one night and day there, with the same symptoms.

“We arrived at night and spent hours sitting outside until admitted near dawn. Later that morning the doctor said my son would be x-rayed. We waited and waited, all the while my son was crying in pain. Later afternoon he passed away,” she said.

In September this year a young man was rushed into the AE with a ruptured stomach and his chest x-ray results clearly showed fluid levels consistent with ruptured bowels. He was misdiagnosed and went through seven days of suffering before doctors finally decided to operate.

On the operating table, the young man went to severe sepsis and could not withstand the exploratory laparotomy – he died on the operating table.

A man, 35, said his father had spent a month in 2022 admitted at the outpatient ward under Emergency doctors who could not find anything wrong with him and later sent him home. His father died a month later in their village.

A father, 50, said he brought his son in earlier this year and had his head x-rayed. “The young doctor at the Emergency said he’d read my son’s x-ray results. When he came out of the room he handed us my son’s medical book saying everything was clear. The doctor had not written anything on my son’s medical card, which was weird.”

His son has since been suffering from chronic migraine and nose bleeds, and they have been in and out of private doctors.

Former NRH doctors – ‘misdiagnosis at Emergency is real’

The two former NRH doctors who spoke with Island Sun said misdiagnosis is a common occurrence at the Emergency department.

They said misdiagnosis has been a bug at the Emergency department for decades, but has recently worsened with the influx of Cuba-trained doctors.

Two groups of doctors man the Emergency department – qualified, experienced PNG/Fiji-trained and underqualified, ill-experienced Cuba-trained, the two former NRH workers said.

Yet, misdiagnosis is committed by both sets of doctors, they add.

“Just recently, a very senior doctor at the Emergency sent home a girl with fluid in her lungs,” one of the two doctors said.

This coupled with lack of resources, ongoing internal politics and nepotism results in the sub-standard service at the NRH Emergency, they said.

Authorities within NRH and the MHMS are aware of this and deeply involved, they said.

NRH doctors – ‘best medical service Solomon Islands has to offer’

Enquiries sent to the Ministry of Health and CEO of NRH, Dr George Malefoasi, went unanswered.

NRH Medical Superintendent Dr Janella Solomon responded to enquiries saying they are investigating Mr Day’s case using a process she called ‘clinical audit’, which she adds is ‘a very technical audit’.

She said a result to their investigation could be made available in the last week of November.

The four NRH doctors who spoke to Island Sun on condition of anonymity said doctors at the Emergency are working hard against odds stacked against them such as poor resources, lack of drugs and accessories, unavailability of needed devices and equipment, and protocols which often slow down or deny access to resources.

“Let me be clear that this is the best medical service at the NRH Emergency that the Solomon Islands can offer given our situation,” one of the NRH doctors said.

“You cannot compare medical care in Australia which is a resourceful country to Solomon Islands, because we are developing and our doctors at the Emergency are trying their best.

“The aim is to identify life threats, manage and get them quickly to the next level of care. The AE doctors have all the knowledge needed but are without the needed equipment and resources,” the doctor said.

Reasons for Day’s nightmare

Another doctor said that with Mr Day’s case, the ultrasound images produced by the machine at the NRH are not of quality which could explain why doctors at AE did not spot his appendicitis.

“It is unfair to blame our AE doctors because the images produced by our ultrasound scan is of low quality which even the well-trained and experienced eye can miss such things as engorged or ruptured appendix.”

The four NRH doctors agree that Day should have received a CT scan, which would have picked up his appendicitis.

One doctor said NRH protocol had delayed Mr Day from getting a CT scan.

“There is protocol in place where radiologists established for consultant at the Emergency to discuss and justify why a CT scan must take place before the patient is scanned.

“So, Day needed a scan but did not get one because he was under the surgical team and there was no surgical consultant available because government had not sorted out the person’s contract,” the doctor said.

Blood tests at the NRH are done at the hospital laboratory.

At the Emergency ward Mr Day underwent a blood test, which took 24 hours before results came – and it turned out to be the wrong blood test.

One of the NRH doctors said the NRH lab is manned by highly experienced and qualified technicians, and they carry out the specific blood tests instructed by the doctors.

“Day’s blood sample came with the instructions to carry out renal function test, which our lab techs did. So, it is unfair to blame our lab techs. The wrong instructions were given,” the doctor said.

“This happens sometimes and it is wrong to say it was a mistake or misdiagnosis because the doctor on-call decides which blood test to run based on his/her observations and we follow their instructions,” the doctor adds.

‘We’re trying our best’ – despite growing complaints

Only two of the NRH doctors inclined when asked to comment on the testimonies of the 10 other people who shared their harrowing experiences at the AE.

“Although we try our best, mistakes do happen. Our main aim is to preserve the life of our patient. If it’s a straight-up injury we address it. If it’s an illness then we investigate using limited resources we have to identify the cause and treat it.

“And, yes, this involves trial and error because illnesses share a lot of common symptoms and often when we arrive at two possibilities we have to rule out one by treating for the most likely cause. If it results differently then we’ll know it is the other, and further treatment.

“And, it is sad that few patients die during the course of searching for their illness, but given our circumstances it cannot be avoided. However, our efforts minimise such deaths,” the doctor said.

The second doctor sympathises with the reports but encourages public to report their complaints to the NRH authorities.

“Unless there is an official report, we cannot address problems public face with our services, especially at the Emergency department.

“Public can report to the Medical and Dental Board (MDB), or the Medical Superintendent of NRH, or the CEO of NRH. Then we can investigate and address the complaints.

“If we at NRH do not address or respond to the complaint reports then public can go to the media,” the doctor said.

NRH complaint channel

Deputy Secretary Health Care Dr Gregory Loko Jilini, a member of MDB, explains to Island Sun the MDB’s function.

“The Medical and Dental Board only responds to complaints that are formally submitted to the Board in writing. When a complaint is received, the Board will then carry out its own independent investigation

“If a patient or relative feels that a doctor’s action is not right, inappropriate or unsafe then they must address their complaint to the Board.  The following information are important to include when making a complaint:

1. The name of the doctor about whom the complaint is made.

2. Describe in detail what happens, including the time, place, patient affected any other person that may be involved or who else witnessed the incident.

3. The name, address and contact details of the person who submits the complaint. The letter of complaint must be signed and dated.

“By law, the complaint must be submitted within three months of when the incident occurred, so it is important to submit complaints while they are fresh,” Mr Jilini said.